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it's not about education. education is where you see how we are express itself in this anxiety over how we do with the rest of the country. >> but you're also saying these kwauts are happening inside of the society and the people getting the best educations are the ones reaping the most gains from the economy. >> yeah, i raid this thing earlier today on a blog that i never read. she was like look, the american economy is still the biggest in the world, why are we worrying about this. because it's not big for the same reasons or for the same input it used to be. so we had a conversation about 1% of the american people controlling the vast majority of the income. >> education doesn't -- that's the thing, we have these political systems and economic systems that is deeply inadequate, and yet the proposed solutions to that problem come from the same ideology that created that very problem. we're not going to get out of this mess by repeating the same testing and market driven schemes that wrote the rest of the eco
it's not about education. education is where you see how we are express itself in this anxiety over how we do with the rest of the country. >> but you're also saying these kwauts are happening inside of the society and the people getting the best educations are the ones reaping the most gains from the economy. >> yeah, i raid this thing earlier today on a blog that i never read. she was like look, the american economy is still the biggest in the world, why are we worrying about...
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if we just figure out better to educate our poor kids we could reduce the inequality. and the president today acknowledged that may not be enough. >> the outcomes we're having today, the health care, the budget, reforming our financial systems, all of these things will have a practical effect on americans, i am convinced the decisions we make in the next few years, will determine whether or not america will be the country where children can grow up and have opportunities that are real. >> i have seen you talk about your work in education as fundamentally driven towards precisely the kinds of goals the president talks about today. reducing inequality. expanding social mobility. and i wonder what your take is on how much of that can be achieved through education, while we have seen outside the schools such a massively expanding amount of poor people. >> yeah, i think part of the problem that we have in the debate today is that people think that you either have to solve the problem of poverty through social programs or it is all about education. and i actually think that
if we just figure out better to educate our poor kids we could reduce the inequality. and the president today acknowledged that may not be enough. >> the outcomes we're having today, the health care, the budget, reforming our financial systems, all of these things will have a practical effect on americans, i am convinced the decisions we make in the next few years, will determine whether or not america will be the country where children can grow up and have opportunities that are real....
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we know that education is the most important predictor of income today. so we launched a race to the top in our schools. we're supporting states that have raised standards for teaching and learning. we're pushing for redesigned high schools that graduate more kids with the technical training and apprenticeships and in-demand high-tech skills that can lead to a good job and a middle-class life. we know it's harder to find a job today without some higher education, so we've helped more students go to college with grants and loans that go farther than before. we've made it more practical to repay those loans and today more students are graduating from college than ever before. we're also pursuing an aggressive strategy to promote innovation that reins in tuition cost. we have a lower cost so young people are not burdened by enormous debt when they make the right decision to get higher education. and next week, michelle and i will bring together college presidents and non-profits to lead a campaign to help more low-income students attend and succeed in colleg
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so we should offer our people the best technical education in the world. that's why we've worked to connect local businesses with community colleges so workers, young and old, can earn the new skills that earn them more money. and i've also embraced an idea that i know all of you at the center for american progress have championed. and by the way, republican governors in a couple of states have championed. that's making high-quality preschool available to every child in america. [ applause ] we know that kids in these programs grow up likely to get more education, earn higher wages, form more stable families of their own. it starts a virtuous cycle, not a vicious one. and we should invest in that. we should give all of our children that chance. as we empower our young people for future success, the third part of this middle-class economics is empowering our workers. it's time to ensure our collective bargaining laws function as they're supposed to so unions have a level playing field to organize for a better deal for workers and better wages for the middle
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a child may never be able to escape poverty, because she lacks a decent education or health care. that should offend all of us. what drives me is a grandson, a son, a father, an american, is to make sure that every striving, hard-working, optimistic kid has the same incredible chance that this country gave me. dr. king once said, of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking. not anymore. if you still don't like obama care, you owe it to the american people to tell us what you are for. not just what you're against. >>> here at 30 rock, we are counting down to tonight's lighting of the famous rockefeller christmas tree. that war on christmas, a lot of hum bug, of course. but as president obama prepares to join in the national tree-lighting on friday, he's got a few other things to attend to. first, including a long list of policy goals that he wants to achieve for the american people. starting, of course, with the affordable care act. the affordable care for all. so just this afternoon, the president kept up his three-week push to promote the afforda
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for them to understand that education is part of black history. and what is possible and what a blessing it is to have a public school education. people forget it was illegal to teach black people to read. illegal to do that in this country for decades. and now you have public education. i try to get them to understand to savor it. the people who went to dunbar who were the lucky ones, they understood the blessing they had to go to this school. and they understood there was something expected of them. they were to do something with this education. and so many of them did. it's a remarkable story. >> alison stewart, thank you so much for your time. and again, the book is "first class: the legacy of dunbar, america's first black public high school." >>> still ahead, my very special interview with idris elba, the star of the new film "mandela: long walk to freedom." stay with us. thrusters at 30%! i can't get her to warp. losing thrusters. i need more power. give me more power! [ mainframe ] located. ge deep-sea fuel technology. a 50,000-pound, ingen
for them to understand that education is part of black history. and what is possible and what a blessing it is to have a public school education. people forget it was illegal to teach black people to read. illegal to do that in this country for decades. and now you have public education. i try to get them to understand to savor it. the people who went to dunbar who were the lucky ones, they understood the blessing they had to go to this school. and they understood there was something expected...
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>> well, at policy, we think the key piece here is educating young people about the bill. the interesting thing with the website issues and political bickering, we haven't really had a conversation amongst young people yet about what this law is, what this law means for young people, and how to make this law work better for our generation. so our perspective is, having this conversation now and having the white house respond to our ideas as a validation of our conversation really, really helped to energize our generation into making that decision, whether they should sign up, and once they're educated people should decide for themselves. but they first need to be educated and this is a really unique way to do so. >>, and you know, chris, i want to broaden it out a little bit and look at how young people relate to this president. you know, tomorrow he's actually sitting down with a bunch of students and our own chris matthews, talking about a bunch of issues. they did that -- >> what time is that happening? tomorrow? >> nice. >> i want to say 7:00 eastern. all the way -- >>
>> well, at policy, we think the key piece here is educating young people about the bill. the interesting thing with the website issues and political bickering, we haven't really had a conversation amongst young people yet about what this law is, what this law means for young people, and how to make this law work better for our generation. so our perspective is, having this conversation now and having the white house respond to our ideas as a validation of our conversation really, really...
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it is true we have to value education, parental involvement and teachers far more than we do already? >> that's certainly true. there's not a silver bullet that's going to take care of the education problem, what's discouraging about the report, a lot of communities have been trying it. more charter schools. we've certainly done more testing in the last decade in an effort to push kids and education systems to work better, yet we get this report that shows almost no change over the past decade in the united states not even hitting the midpoint when it comes to mat and science education. that's one of the things fueling this debate over common core standards. that's the newest things a lot trying in an effort to make the system work better. >> something arne duncan has been pushing hard indeed. >> one thing asking ourselves, have are we changed our system to teach kids how to take the test and not how to learn. >> be conceptual. thank you so much ron fournier and susan page. amazon has thought of everything. almost. their plan to use small drones to deliver purchases to your doorstep i
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i'm only here because this country educated my grandfather on the g.i. bill. my father left and my mom hit hard times trying to raise my sister and me while she was going to school, this country helped make sure we didn't go hungry. when michelle, the daughter of a shift worker at a water plant and a secretary, wanted to go to college, just like me, this country helped us afford it. until we could pay it back. so it drives me as a grandson, a son, a father, as an american is to make sure that every striving hard-working, optimistic kid in america has the same incredible chance that this country gave me. >> the same, the same incredible chance that this country gave him. it's a vision of fairness, jeopardized by a growing gap between rich and poor. look at this chart. this blue line shows the average income of the bottom 90% since 1960. in that time, the average income has grown by 22%. now let at the red line showing the income of the top 1%. look at that dramatic difference. the top 1% has grown by 271% in the same period of time. 271%. this is what president
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that's the kind of education that they need to give to their candidates and until they do, they're not going to get much support from women voters in this country. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, good to see you. >> you, too, chris. >>> the president hanging with the kids, but are millennials souring on the hope and change they were promised? how the president is trying to win them back next. [ female announcer ] ladies and gentlemen i'm here to say a few words about the power of baking stuff with nestle toll house morsels. you can heal a broken heart with a bundt cake. make a monday mornin' feel like a friday afternoon with some nestle toll house morsels. let's close our laptops and open our ovens. these things don't bake themselves. we have to bake them for one another. we can bake the world a better place one toll house cookie at a time. nestle. good food, good life. nestle. and what would this pretty i'm thinking the ford fusion... ho, ho, ho!....the what? i need a car that's stylish and fashionable... especially in my line of work. now do you have a little lemonade stand?
that's the kind of education that they need to give to their candidates and until they do, they're not going to get much support from women voters in this country. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, good to see you. >> you, too, chris. >>> the president hanging with the kids, but are millennials souring on the hope and change they were promised? how the president is trying to win them back next. [ female announcer ] ladies and gentlemen i'm here to say a few words about the...
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one of which is education. you have more people going to college than ever before, which means more debt, but that doesn't necessarily mean better paying jobs. we're talking about $15 to $20 an hour. do you think raising the minimum wage would have an impact on the way we at least think about education? would more people be less likely to want to go to school if they're getting paid more without having to go? >> i don't think the minimum wage has much of an impact on educational decision. i do think that college is still a good deal, but the reality is that inequality is growing even amongst those who actually go to college. the median college salary is not really keeping pace with the rest of the economy. so again, i think when thinking about the overall picture about inequality, we do need a number of different tools. i think the minimum wage plays one part of that but an important one. >> one of the arguments that corporations like mcdonald's and wendy's in particular like to make is, well, if we raise wages
one of which is education. you have more people going to college than ever before, which means more debt, but that doesn't necessarily mean better paying jobs. we're talking about $15 to $20 an hour. do you think raising the minimum wage would have an impact on the way we at least think about education? would more people be less likely to want to go to school if they're getting paid more without having to go? >> i don't think the minimum wage has much of an impact on educational decision....
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the growth of women's presence in education and higher education, increased in the '70s and 80s and plateaued sometime in the '90s, depending on which measure you look at. and then we really saw strong pattern of women entering men's occupations, especially in middle class jobs, those women, college graduates, but not so much movement the other way. women were entering professions like law and medicine or realty or educational administration that had been previously male jobs. but men weren't going into nursing and teaching preschool and elementary school -- >> let's look at some of those numbers. that is such a shocking part of your study. one in four men actually work in fields you report that are dominated 90% by males. one in three women work in fields that have 80% of women in the workplace of the your study tells the story of a professional environment in the united states where huge, huge portions of our working public are in a one gender office. >> yes, office might not be the words for it -- >> workplace, construction and plumbing and all of that. it is the case that our worlds at ho
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we have an issue, what's going to happen in terms of education and labor force? >> the working poor conversation. >> exactly. that is very -- blacks and hispanics are at the epicenter of that along with education. and we're not going to solve this in the next month. every time the rate gets better, a lot of people get angry. either the numbers are gained or their own situation, i've still got $15,000 here, got payments and health care issues and that's the discussion that we'll have next year. >> zachary, we haven't seen you in a while. great having you on. >> we're tracking two winter storms. icy mess in the south and headed east. along with another blast of snow and freezing rain, not far behind. we're just learning the weather has forced cancellation of a big marathon in texas this weekend. we'll get an update from the weather channel. >>> pope francis responds to complaints that he largely ignored the catholic church's child abuse crisis. how the pope is now addressing it. but first -- ♪ >> more on the life of nelson mandela with live pictures outside his f
we have an issue, what's going to happen in terms of education and labor force? >> the working poor conversation. >> exactly. that is very -- blacks and hispanics are at the epicenter of that along with education. and we're not going to solve this in the next month. every time the rate gets better, a lot of people get angry. either the numbers are gained or their own situation, i've still got $15,000 here, got payments and health care issues and that's the discussion that we'll have...
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she said because of mandela, her child and the other kids there have a good education. plus, a huge pad of flowers on the gates lead to go mandela's home. people having their own gatherings. they will come here where they feel closer to mandela where he lived as well as closer to each other. >> michelle, we're having a little bit of trouble hearing your audio. i have to tell you what i love is how this nation, their mourning is so joyful. they really seem to be celebrating his life. >> yeah. i think it is part of tradition. it's a part of the way they do things here. when you look at his life full of tragedy as well as triumph, there is so much to celebrate. also, this wasn't exactly the most sudden passings. they knew it was going to come in the near future. plans have been laid out for some time. so people come here wanting to celebrate the changes that he made. they want to make sure that momentum continues. they want to represent the sense that mandela created, the equality that he established in this country and put it out there for the world to see, that they abso
she said because of mandela, her child and the other kids there have a good education. plus, a huge pad of flowers on the gates lead to go mandela's home. people having their own gatherings. they will come here where they feel closer to mandela where he lived as well as closer to each other. >> michelle, we're having a little bit of trouble hearing your audio. i have to tell you what i love is how this nation, their mourning is so joyful. they really seem to be celebrating his life....
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you don't know how it works and you've never applied for it and never done anything, you need to be educated and there's a whole lot of people out there who have not had health insurance before or how to use it. >> there are a lot of people who don't have computers and a lot of people are watching television about this sort of thing, so you have a real public education problem that goes with any major social change like this. it was no different for social security or for medicare or for the drug benefit under medicare. there's always a lot of education that has to be done. >> we know that there's a renewed sense of confidence certainly coming from the white house and certainly coming from democrats who have been anxious about this, and i know that as of tuesday in your state more than 175,000 residents have enrolled in health care coverage since october 1st and we know since november 14th, enrollments have increased by 55%. in your opening remarks from yesterday's committee hearing from the aca implementation and you related from the constituent who called your office and they were irate th
you don't know how it works and you've never applied for it and never done anything, you need to be educated and there's a whole lot of people out there who have not had health insurance before or how to use it. >> there are a lot of people who don't have computers and a lot of people are watching television about this sort of thing, so you have a real public education problem that goes with any major social change like this. it was no different for social security or for medicare or for...
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he used his law school experience, his educated man experience. and there's a wonderful quote in his auto biography where he talks about consensus building. and he used his experience watching the tribal council and chiefs. he said the chief works like a shepherd whereupon the others follow not realizing that all along they are being directed from behind. eugene robinson, joy reid, thank you for joining us. >>> chris matthews is up next. >>> tonight we bring to you my interview with president obama. i have covered two great world events in my career. one was the fall of the berlin wall in 1989. the other was the first democratic election in south africa five years later. i was there when the country's black majority voted by the millions, waiting in lines that stretched from one horizon to the other. i saw first hand the devotion to democracy. it was the great legacy of the man who died today. president obama paid tribute to nelson mandela today.
he used his law school experience, his educated man experience. and there's a wonderful quote in his auto biography where he talks about consensus building. and he used his experience watching the tribal council and chiefs. he said the chief works like a shepherd whereupon the others follow not realizing that all along they are being directed from behind. eugene robinson, joy reid, thank you for joining us. >>> chris matthews is up next. >>> tonight we bring to you my...
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have, whether it's integration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, improving our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with questions of war and peace, those are not things that chris matthews or barack obama can solve by ourselves. by necessity, we're going to have to do those together. and if we can at least agree on that and agree that our system of self-government allows us to come together, to take on those big problems, then, you know, we can figure out the specific policies, and that's where we can compromise and negotiate. but what i will not compromise on is the idea for example we shouldn't have 41 million people in this country without health insurance. that i won't compromise on. that's where it gets to who are we as a country, and my own sense of what my responsibilities are as president of the united states. >> well, we're almost done. i have to ask you a little question you may not hike to answer. >> ah-oh. >> this could be tough. it's an essay question. the qualities required of a president. vice president
have, whether it's integration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, improving our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with questions of war and peace, those are not things that chris matthews or barack obama can solve by ourselves. by necessity, we're going to have to do those together. and if we can at least agree on that and agree that our system of self-government allows us to come together, to take on those big problems,...
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we have to put people back to work and get our young people educated. we have to make sure that folks who are unemployed have some hope. and some safety net upon which they can begin to find some community while they're looking for work. and that is why tomorrow on the hill, our committee is going to be looking at unemployment insurance and what we should do. because 1.3 million americans are going to lose their unemployment insurance compensation as of the 28th, i believe of december. and we need to get their needs helped, so while they're looking for work they can feed their children. i think the president will flesh this out in his state of the union. >> thank you, we'll get back to this conversation with mayor stephanie rawlins, and leader of the house, jim clyburn. and don't forget, the president be our guest tomorrow. we'll be right back after this. >>> let me finish tonight with this, i'm going to be short in closing tonight except to say i look forward with hope and a little bit of a concern about tomorrow's visit by the president. i'm concerned
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i want to go back to education. one of the great challenges is education. our numbers have fallen behind so many countries right now. we have a class that has been protecting the status quo now despite the talk of education reform and protecting the status quo for decades now. we have got to go in and radically reform education into the poorest parts of the country. the special interest groups who had this iron-like grip on public education, they have got to loosen that grip and we need to start taking radical experiments and doing what they are doing in new orleans. it's giving poor parents the same opportunity that rich parents have. that's all we are asking for. give the poorest parents the same opportunities that the richest parents have and let them choose. let them decide what school is best for their child. it seems like such a simple approach yet my god, the special interests go crazy when you do that. >> it's not like there not great ideas. we talk to them every week and there pockets of people doing incredible things. there is a school called the
i want to go back to education. one of the great challenges is education. our numbers have fallen behind so many countries right now. we have a class that has been protecting the status quo now despite the talk of education reform and protecting the status quo for decades now. we have got to go in and radically reform education into the poorest parts of the country. the special interest groups who had this iron-like grip on public education, they have got to loosen that grip and we need to...
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in fact, we are helping to assure that that kid over there who's not my kid has a chance at a good education or that guy over there who i'm not related to has a chance at a decent job and a decent retirement, i'm going to be better off. i'm going to be living in a society that is more cohesive and is going to create the kind of future for our kids that were all want. and that more than anything is at the core of the debate that i've been having with the republican party over the last several years. it's not just the details of the affordable care act or, you know, the minimum wage. because as i said yesterday in the speech, if you've got better ideas for achieving the same goal, put them out there. i'm not wedded to one particular way of doing things. but the central argument i have is we do have an obligation to each other. and there's some things we can do together. in fact, the big challenges we have whether it's immigration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, improving our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with que
in fact, we are helping to assure that that kid over there who's not my kid has a chance at a good education or that guy over there who i'm not related to has a chance at a decent job and a decent retirement, i'm going to be better off. i'm going to be living in a society that is more cohesive and is going to create the kind of future for our kids that were all want. and that more than anything is at the core of the debate that i've been having with the republican party over the last several...
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foundation and unicef created in 2004 with a special emphasis on the children least likely to get an education in africa, girls, orphans, children living in extreme poverty. the schools for africa initiative has raised more than $164 million and helped more than 21 million children in 11 african countries. the kids in need of desks fund that i created is part of this initiative. the k.i.n.d. fund delivers desks to classrooms around the country has now raised 5 stk $859,920. that was after your contributions flowed in last night and today in the amount of $76,404 after i talked about the k.i.n.d. fund on last night's show and asked you to help. hundreds and thousands of kids in africa are sitting at desk are for the first time in their lives thanks to you and your generosity to the k.i.n.d. fund. they are now providing scholarships to girls in malawi. you can contribute by calling 1-800-4unicef. whenever we deliver desks tole skoo to the schools, kids always thank us in song. . ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you're a rinse user, you may have heard there's a new rinse that talks about protect
foundation and unicef created in 2004 with a special emphasis on the children least likely to get an education in africa, girls, orphans, children living in extreme poverty. the schools for africa initiative has raised more than $164 million and helped more than 21 million children in 11 african countries. the kids in need of desks fund that i created is part of this initiative. the k.i.n.d. fund delivers desks to classrooms around the country has now raised 5 stk $859,920. that was after your...
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education secretary arne duncan addressed the findings early this morning. >> it is a picture of educational stagnation. the brutal truth that urgent reality must serve as a wake-up call against educational complacency and low expectations. we're running in place as other high-performing countries start to lap us. >> michelle rhee is the ceo and founder of students first and joins us now. michelle, are you surprised by what this new assessment is saying about american students or do you think that this is on track, knowing what you know about where our education system has been going? >> you know, actually it's not a surprise. american kids, their scores have not actually changed since the last time the test was administered, so it's not as if their scores have gone down, that's the problem. the issue is that other countries have leap frogged ahead of us, so you have countries like ireland and poland and as tonia that are scoring higher than we are. so we have become stagnant as a country while other nations are really pushing the envelope and growing at much, much faster rates than we are.
education secretary arne duncan addressed the findings early this morning. >> it is a picture of educational stagnation. the brutal truth that urgent reality must serve as a wake-up call against educational complacency and low expectations. we're running in place as other high-performing countries start to lap us. >> michelle rhee is the ceo and founder of students first and joins us now. michelle, are you surprised by what this new assessment is saying about american students or do...
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aid to higher education. i think there's something in the american consciousness or american soul even that recognizes government has a role but wants it to be as inclusive as possible. and when you get into reforming 20% of the economy and without that kind of universal benefit i think that's where the presidents run into trouble. >> like the whole tone of this conversation is that it's ultimately a failure. we don't know that. you would say it is a failure. >> i agree. conservatives should not be over confident. >> i would not be over confident because if more people are getting insurance, if subsidies do work, if more people get the medicaid. the federal exchange learns lessons and works out its wrinkles we can be sitting here six months from now, oh, my gosh, we overreact during that debate. i don't know that's how it will play out. >> you've seen it happen so many times before. overreach. one party overreaches. >> politically things turn. >> i'm skeptical in this case. >> also the social issue. people wa
aid to higher education. i think there's something in the american consciousness or american soul even that recognizes government has a role but wants it to be as inclusive as possible. and when you get into reforming 20% of the economy and without that kind of universal benefit i think that's where the presidents run into trouble. >> like the whole tone of this conversation is that it's ultimately a failure. we don't know that. you would say it is a failure. >> i agree....
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. >> on monday you are helping lead a national day of action on public education. tell me about what you're doing. >> just like we're fighting income equality, we have to fight education inequality. and that means the places that have gotten hurt the most by austerity, by privatization, by attesting fixation. they have come together. parents, community-based organizations particularly in low income neighborhoods with our union to say we need a new direction. we need to reclaim the promise of public education with our solutions for our schools. we need to fix, not close public schools. we need to actually have a fixation on children, not on testing. we need wrap around services to actually mitigate poverty. pre-k, different pathways to graduation. what's happening is it's not just our union talking about it. it's in 60 cities over a hundred groups coming together to say let's together have this new direction to help all of our kids succeed. >> we'll be watching it monday. >> thank you. >> jared bernstein, randi weingarten, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank y
. >> on monday you are helping lead a national day of action on public education. tell me about what you're doing. >> just like we're fighting income equality, we have to fight education inequality. and that means the places that have gotten hurt the most by austerity, by privatization, by attesting fixation. they have come together. parents, community-based organizations particularly in low income neighborhoods with our union to say we need a new direction. we need to reclaim the...
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they're calling it a picketing campaign to educate dollar store customers about what they called the extreme and aggressive policies that they are funding by shopping at stores owned by mr. pope. >> we want to put a stop to the use of wealth to influence policies in a negative way. that's why it's not a boycott, it's a picket. >> if i came to the north carolina justice center, democracy north carolina instead of the john locke foundation, that would be okay because i support -- >> it's whether you give in the influence -- let's meet -- >> the head of the naacp and mr. pope himself facing off today at the press conference. head of the naacp there calling for a picket campaign targeting the pope family's discount stores. his name is the reverend william barber, he's the president of naacp in north carolina. he's the man who is instrumental in the moral mondays protest in that state and he's now leading this multistate protest effort against the most influential republican in north carolina politics. joining us now for the interview tonight is the reverend william barber, north carolina
they're calling it a picketing campaign to educate dollar store customers about what they called the extreme and aggressive policies that they are funding by shopping at stores owned by mr. pope. >> we want to put a stop to the use of wealth to influence policies in a negative way. that's why it's not a boycott, it's a picket. >> if i came to the north carolina justice center, democracy north carolina instead of the john locke foundation, that would be okay because i support --...
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supreme court declared that separate educational facilities are unequal, south africa codified it expris sit ri for their nation. separate everything. everything assigned to different races. and the best of everything reserved for the white minority. people classified as colored. for a while, they had a right to vote specifically for white people to represent them. only the white minority had the vote in the ends. and only the white minority had any say. 80% of the country lived entirely segregated and without representation under white rule. 80% of the country. by 1960, the demonstrations had started to zero in on those pass books, the laws that made your mere existence criminal if you were challenged by a white person as to what you were doing there. the best way to overthrow apartheid, just outside johannesburg somewhere between 5,000 and 7,000 people turned up and said they wanted to turn themselves in. thousands of people. they turned up and said that they all felt that they needed to be arrested, all 5,000 of them because they said they tid not have their passbooks. so they were tu
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in fact, we are helping to assure that that kid over there who's not my kid has a chance at a good education or that guy over there who i'm not related to has a chance at a decent job and a decent retirement, i'm going to be better off. i'm going to be living in a society that is more cohesive and is going to create the kind of future for our kids that were all want. and that more than anything is at the core of the debate that i've been having with the republican party over the last several years. it's not just the details of the affordable care act or, you know, the minimum wage. because as i said yesterday in the speech, if you've got better ideas for achieving the same goal, put them out there. i'm not wedded to one particular way of doing things. but the central argument i have is we do have an obligation to each other. and there's some things we can do together. in fact, the big challenges we have whether it's immigration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, improving our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with que
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has to be the center of education. they have to port teachers and support parents and rich curriculum including arts and music and science. that's what we're calling for here. we're one of any number of groups, student or parent, community groups that says we need a new school not fixated on testing, strategies that create winners and losers but we have to help all of our children achieve and succeed. that's why you see the largest coordinated group of action, 90 in all, set for different parts of time during the day today. >> with race to the top, one of the policies you think was a failure and has not improved the overall standing of american students. >> i think what happened was race to the top was too fixated on testing and not enough on teaching and learning. now, let me just be clear. race to the top is part of a $100 billion stimulus package that was really important to keep schools afloat during the worse recession since the great depression. what's happened, andrea, there's been too much of a focus on testing
has to be the center of education. they have to port teachers and support parents and rich curriculum including arts and music and science. that's what we're calling for here. we're one of any number of groups, student or parent, community groups that says we need a new school not fixated on testing, strategies that create winners and losers but we have to help all of our children achieve and succeed. that's why you see the largest coordinated group of action, 90 in all, set for different parts...
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and charlayne, he talked about education. and they called robin island mandela university. you have this place that is a horror where he was for 27 years, and yet his influence was to make it something positive for the other people. >> for other people like saki and others like him, he insisted they learn. because saki was a young man when he went to prison. some of them were 16, 17 years old. and so rather than see their environment as a prison, he and the other leaders turned it into something that was productive. as saki just said, they had faith and they had hope. but they also had faith that those people running around that prison yard and sometimes playing soccer also had to study their books so that one day they would be able to lead the country as people like saki and some of the others who were there on robin island do it today. >> and while doing it they had hard physical labor. he contracted tuberculosis while he was at robin island. but you mentioned how he made friends with the guards. and the wardens there. he was not an idealist. he was very pragmatic. i mean
and charlayne, he talked about education. and they called robin island mandela university. you have this place that is a horror where he was for 27 years, and yet his influence was to make it something positive for the other people. >> for other people like saki and others like him, he insisted they learn. because saki was a young man when he went to prison. some of them were 16, 17 years old. and so rather than see their environment as a prison, he and the other leaders turned it into...
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and we added to that the sanctions, the rallies, the protests, the education about what was going on, and it brought apartheid to an end. >> yeah, i think the key point if that is the grass-roots movement of divestment as the predicate to sanctions. it became the national government's policy version of what universities and cities and states and all sorts of cities were working on on a grass-roots level. i want to bring in thomas frank, author of "the wrecking crew." tom, there's an amazing chapter in that book that is about the nexus between movement conservative, particularly in the 1980s, and if not pro-apartheid movement, the anti-anti-apartheid movement, that the big issue on campuses particularly was the south african government, anti-apartheid, liberals and leftist opposing it and conservatives rising up in its defense. what did that nexus look like? >> it's good that you put it that way, anti-anti-apartheid because that's exactly what these people were. they would never actually come out and try to rationalize apartheid or try to sell apartheid to an american audience. i mean,
and we added to that the sanctions, the rallies, the protests, the education about what was going on, and it brought apartheid to an end. >> yeah, i think the key point if that is the grass-roots movement of divestment as the predicate to sanctions. it became the national government's policy version of what universities and cities and states and all sorts of cities were working on on a grass-roots level. i want to bring in thomas frank, author of "the wrecking crew." tom,...
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whether it's immigration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, i am profession our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with questions of war and peace, those are not things that chris matthews or barack obama can solve by ourselves. by necessity, we're going to have to do those together and if we can at least agree on that and agree that our system of self-government allows us to come together to take on those big problems then, you know, we can figure out the specific policies and that's where we are compromise and negotiate. but what i will not compromise on is the idea, for example, we shouldn't have 41 million people in this country without health insurance. that i won't compromise on. that's where it gets to who are we as a country and my own sense of what my responsibilities are as president of the united states. >>> well, we're almost done. i have to ask you a little question you may not like to answer. this could be tough. >> all right. >> it's an essay question. the qualities required of a president. vice presiden
whether it's immigration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, i am profession our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with questions of war and peace, those are not things that chris matthews or barack obama can solve by ourselves. by necessity, we're going to have to do those together and if we can at least agree on that and agree that our system of self-government allows us to come together to take on those big problems...
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at the same time, america was moving toward civil rights, toward the -- brown versus the board of education was a few years later. he realized south africa was on the wrong side of history. but he also realized, when he came out, he had to repair the breach. part of the reason he never showed his bitterness, which he did have, was that he knew he had to reconcile white and black for a new south africa. the white's business center was the engine of prosperity for africa. south africa couldn't survive without them, he knew that. and that was one reason he never showed the anger or bitterness. >> the 1986 decision for apartheid here laid the ground work for the apartheid decision there. we had to fight that same system that dr. king started in '63, mandela got out and there was the right to vote, and they had to get this commerce to declare sanctions very reluctant against our system. but the impetus to free that system came from the civil rights struggle on policy. and to think, david, he got off the terrorist list in 2008. think about that. >> he had sort of lingered there. >> he got off the
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are hospitals doing their part to help to educate people as far as what's going on with this? >> they are. they are working hard to let people know what the dynamic is. part of the debate has to be not just about hospitals and governors but the business communities in these places saying if we're going to be competitive, if we're doing to have a strong educated workforce that can go to work in the morning and be health y, we have to make sure we support essential hospitals in every way we can. that business community has got to step up to the plate in these states. >> doctor, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >>> coming up new details in yesterday's early morning train wreck that left four dead. we'll have an update after the break. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members,
are hospitals doing their part to help to educate people as far as what's going on with this? >> they are. they are working hard to let people know what the dynamic is. part of the debate has to be not just about hospitals and governors but the business communities in these places saying if we're going to be competitive, if we're doing to have a strong educated workforce that can go to work in the morning and be health y, we have to make sure we support essential hospitals in every way we...
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in fact, we are helping to assure that that kid over there who's not my kid has a chance at a good education or that guy over there who i'm not related to has a chance at a decent job and a decent retirement, i'm going to be better off. i'm going to be living in a society that is more cohesive and is going to create the kind of future for our kids that were all want. and that more than anything is at the core of the debate that i've been having with the republican party over the last several years. it's not just the details of the affordable care act or, you know, the minimum wage. because as i said yesterday in the speech, if you've got better ideas for achieving the same goal, put them out there. i'm not wedded to one particular way of doing things. but the central argument i have is we do have an obligation to each other. and there's some things we can do together. in fact, the big challenges we have whether it's immigration, climate change, an economy that works for everybody, improving our education system, making college more affordable, competing in the world economy, dealing with que
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. >> the idea that a child may never be able to escape poverty because she lacks a decent education, health care or a community that views her future as their own, that should offend all of us. the combined friends of increased inequality and decreasing mobility pose a fundamental threat to the american dream, our way of life, and what we stand for around the globe. so what drives me is a grandson, a son, a father, as an american is to make sure that every striving hard-working, optimistic kid in america has the same incredible chance that this country gave me. >> currently the minimum wage is $7.25. adjusted for inflation. that's more than $3 less than the minimum wage back in 1968. president obama says he will support a senate bill to increase the minimum wage to $10.10. >>> if hillary clinton decides to run for president in 2016, her path to the democratic nomination may have just become a little clearer. the "boston globe" is recording elizabeth warren put an to end speculation she might pursue the white house in the foreseeable future. at a news conference, warren pledged to ser
. >> the idea that a child may never be able to escape poverty because she lacks a decent education, health care or a community that views her future as their own, that should offend all of us. the combined friends of increased inequality and decreasing mobility pose a fundamental threat to the american dream, our way of life, and what we stand for around the globe. so what drives me is a grandson, a son, a father, as an american is to make sure that every striving hard-working,...
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at the same time, america was moving toward civil rights, toward the -- brown versus the board of education was a few years later. he realized south africa was on the wrong side of history. but he also realized, when he came out, he had to repair the breach. part of the reason he never showed his bitterness, which he did have, was that he knew he had to reconcile white and black for a new south africa. the white business center was the engine of prosperity for africa. south africa couldn't survive without them, he knew that. and that was one reason he never showed the anger or bitterness. >> the 1986 decision for apartheid here laid the ground work for the apartheid decision there. we had to fight that same system that dr. king started in '63, mandela got out and there was the right to vote, and they had to get this commerce to declare sanctions very reluctant against our system. but the impetus to free that system came from the civil rights struggle on policy. and to think, david, he got off the terrorist list in 2008. think about that. >> he had sort of lingered there. >> he got off the p
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in fact, we are helping to assure that that kid over there who's not my kid has a chance at a good education or that guy over there who i'm not related to has a chance at a decent job and a decent retirement, i'm going to be better off. i'm going to be living in a society that is more cohesive and is, you know, going to create the kind of future for our kids that we all want. >> jonathan, it was so powerful. he's not a catholic. he's obviously been paying attention to what the pope has been saying about social justice. not talking about abortion so much or the issues that have been dominating in my religion so often. but talking about the old christian principles. looking out for poor people. saying the lowest person you meet is in the worst position. that basic christianity. and i was taken, in fact, he's been paying attention to that. he sure has. >> right. the key thing is while the president's not a catholic, he is a christian. and when you listen to his speeches, when you listen to what he says whether it's health care or the economy, a lot of it is based in these, the ones who are stru
in fact, we are helping to assure that that kid over there who's not my kid has a chance at a good education or that guy over there who i'm not related to has a chance at a decent job and a decent retirement, i'm going to be better off. i'm going to be living in a society that is more cohesive and is, you know, going to create the kind of future for our kids that we all want. >> jonathan, it was so powerful. he's not a catholic. he's obviously been paying attention to what the pope has...
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this is the systematic corporate destruction of an american city with a mission to destroy public education, attack the voting block, attack the unions in detroit, and it has really been the focal point to privatize everything they can get their hands on. i have a jaded opinion in all of this. i actually believe in american workers. i believe that workers should not be sacrificed if there are policies and market forces that are having a big impact on a city. i believe that we have an obligation to workers. i want to throw some numbers at you tonight. i know, we've got numbers. but, you know, conservatives, they like numbers. $24 billion. that's the cost of the last shutdown. i haven't heard any conservatives in washington raise any problem with that at all. haven't heard anything about offsets. $24 billion? well, when it's their way, they throw around billion-dollar bills like they're $5 bills. that's what the shutdown cost. so i understand debt. okay? and i think everybody in america has some level of debt in their life. $18 billion debt to the city of detroit, that's pretty hefty, no gett
this is the systematic corporate destruction of an american city with a mission to destroy public education, attack the voting block, attack the unions in detroit, and it has really been the focal point to privatize everything they can get their hands on. i have a jaded opinion in all of this. i actually believe in american workers. i believe that workers should not be sacrificed if there are policies and market forces that are having a big impact on a city. i believe that we have an obligation...
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. >> the idea that a child may never be able to escape that poverty because she lacks a decent education or health care or a community that views her future as their own, that should offend all of us. to take money from the haves and give it to the have nots, that's not what's best. ♪ >> be off with you! >> christmas is a time of generosi generosity. >> what other secular humanists are peeing on your you'll log. >> convince people saying that jesus would feed the poor which he would. we all know that. but would he impose a system that hurts one group to help another group? >> the top 10 percent no longer takes in one-third of our income. and now takes half. >> hum bug. >> it's this theoretical world that president obama seems to live in. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. did i just hear bill o'reilly say something about people are hurting? that jesus would want to help the poor, but he wouldn't want to hurt anybody else? you mean to tell me that bill o'reilly, who is looking out for us, thinks that the wealthiest americans are hurting right now? oh, i'll
. >> the idea that a child may never be able to escape that poverty because she lacks a decent education or health care or a community that views her future as their own, that should offend all of us. to take money from the haves and give it to the have nots, that's not what's best. ♪ >> be off with you! >> christmas is a time of generosi generosity. >> what other secular humanists are peeing on your you'll log. >> convince people saying that jesus would feed the...
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smart deficit reduction and investments in education. we have to cut spending and it has to be fair to the middle class. if the position will be to turn off sequester which we must do, we will ask to pay to turn off sequester. that's not going to suit the democrats in congress. we will continue to negotiate and hope that we get to a good fair common ground that is good and fair of the middle class. >> when you say the middle class, what are you referencing to that they have to pay for? >> one of the things is a surcharge on airline tickets. in the context of an overall budget if we have to look at that, we should. to do that and ask middle class people who are traveling to visit with their families. this has to do better than that. >> one question i want to ask you about, when you are not on capitol hill, you moonlight to get democrats elect and get the 17 seats needed to reclaim the majority. a person who has gone out of his way to help you is the president of the united states. they say that the president has not turned down a single f
smart deficit reduction and investments in education. we have to cut spending and it has to be fair to the middle class. if the position will be to turn off sequester which we must do, we will ask to pay to turn off sequester. that's not going to suit the democrats in congress. we will continue to negotiate and hope that we get to a good fair common ground that is good and fair of the middle class. >> when you say the middle class, what are you referencing to that they have to pay for?...
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they are optimistic about the opportunities, but they know there real challenges particularly around education to make certain there is a sustainable economy and the shared prosperity this this country. >> one of the things i want to do with you, you were talking with andrea off camera and i am glad you brought up the cold war point. history and a reminder of what that -- how frankly we were behind the times as a government when it came to dealing with the anti-apartheid movement back in the 80s and how that should make us think certain things today. >> i think the cold war mentality that andrea talked about did drive the lens with which we looked at south africa. >> you are with us or you are against us. if you are with us we overlooked your domestic transgressions. >> in south africa, the anc turned to cuba and russia where they still have strong ties as a result. >> stronger than ties with the united states? >> different. we have very good relationships with south africa, but that memory is still there. we weren't with them at the beginning. they were trained in russia or cuba. >> they don'
they are optimistic about the opportunities, but they know there real challenges particularly around education to make certain there is a sustainable economy and the shared prosperity this this country. >> one of the things i want to do with you, you were talking with andrea off camera and i am glad you brought up the cold war point. history and a reminder of what that -- how frankly we were behind the times as a government when it came to dealing with the anti-apartheid movement back in...